Pangya distributed in old magazines

I talked with a friend about Pangya and they gave me an interesting hint about preserving installers and the like: Old gaming magazines.

Especially in the early-mid 2000s gaming magazines often distributed the installers of free online games for promotional purposes (and it’s quicker to install rather than download the 150-something MB).

This can now become handy to us as we can search for archived versions of magazines and their cover discs and unearth Pangya client versions that we possibly don’t have saved in the archive yet.

As an example, I found the patch version 239 of Albatross18, the now oldest version we have, on a cover disc of the magazine PC Zone, right here:

If you remember getting Pangya from an old magazine CD, drop the name and a rough timeframe, that might help us finding an archived copy somewhere. If you found an archived version yourself, feel free to link that too!

You can also always reach out to me here if you have files relevant for the archive:

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Great find. I’m sure we might find some other installers on korean/japanese magazines DVD too. We can focus the search on specific countries first, then search for any ISOs on the Wayback Machine or any other online collection. Unfortunately, searches such as " パンヤ DVD" doesn’t return any result, and there seems to be no index of each ISOs contents. The only way to find installers is to download all the ISOs and make a local search inside them.
For Japan, these were the most known videogames magazines with covermounted DVDs/CDs:
Famitsu WaveDVD (ファミ通WaveDVD): Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Texts, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine
TECH Win DVD (テックウィン): Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Texts, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine
Tech Gian (テックジャイアン) and Push!! (more oriented to PC visual novel and bishoujo): Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Texts, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine

Archive.org has ISOs from 2004 onwards only for Famitsu WaveDVD. Does anybody know of any other archive for the other two magazines?

Varthall

Went for another search, found that Pangya was distributed in a local gaming magazine in 2007 as well.

Currently downloading the ISO to check what installer it is, but I assume it probably is the S3 installer we already have.

Edit: The download finished and it’s the Open Beta installer that we already have, containing Pangya EU (patch ver. 300s)

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I have just discovered that TechWin was published until January 2006, so not many possibilities to find an installer there.

Varthall

I did a quick check of the Famitsu Wave DVDs; they all contain only videos. However, they have extensive coverage of the Tokyo Game Show (TGS) from 2007 to 2010, which GameSpot and Ntreev attended to promote Pangya, among other games. It would be interesting to find videos of their booths from these events.

Varthall

I have found an installer, hopefully the first of a serie. I have done a more specific search with Gemini, it has found that Pangya was covermounted on the CD of LOGiN 348 (March 2005): https://www.retromags.com/files/file/8487-login-348-march-2005/ LOGiN 348 (March 2005) CD-ROM : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I have extracted the ISO, it contains PangYa_Setup_208a1_JPN.exe which we don’t have in the archive, and also in this case it’s the earliest installer we have now for the JP server. @pixeldesu I have uploaded it in the Inventory.

Gemini mentions that it was included in NetGames Mania and Online Game Magazine, too, I’m checking for any installer in those magazines too.

Varthall

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Just to reference this here as it already is in the archive, but Pangya was also included in an issue of the french gaming magazine PC Jeux Hors-Série N° 13 (Juillet/Août 2006).

Additionally, I found that Pangya has been included in issue PC Jeux N°110 (Mai 2007) (which makes sense as Pangya Europe launched in March 2007).

Maybe I can dig up a download for that later as well, having a reference for the magazine is a good starter already.

I think with all this info I can start a wiki page referencing all the magazine mentions of Pangya over the years :thinking:

Yes, it would be a nice idea to start a wiki page with all these mentions. There are lots of magazines where they had articles about the game, having a table with an indication wherever the installer has been recovered from the included CD/DVD would be handy too.
I have checked the other LOGiN ISOs listed on RetroMags but they don’t have any other installer.
According to Gemini (so this information has to be taken with a pinch of salt), the following magazines had an installer too:

  • LOGiN Magazine – May 2006: 2nd-anniversary celebratory wallpapers featuring the cast were included
  • LOGiN Magazine – November 2006: it included a promotional desktop layout pack, high-resolution Season 3 artwork files, and an exclusive Gamepot campaign serial code for readers to redeem special items in-game.
  • ウィンドウズ100% (Windows 100%): 2005 and 2006 issues
  • テックウィン (Tech Win DVD): Mid-2005 Update Discs
  • コンプティーク (Comptiq): 2005–2006 Starter Packages
  • 電撃Games (Dengeki Online Games): Specialized MMO Anthologies (2005)

Released by MediaX, these had limited diffusion and are rare today:

  • オンラインゲームマガジンエクス - Online Game Magazine X Vol. 1 (Released mid-2005)
  • オンラインゲームOnline (Online Game Online) - Spring and Winter 2005 issues
  • オンラインゲーム&コミュニティマニア (Online Game & Community Mania)
  • NetGames Mania Vol. 3 (Released Early 2005)
  • NetGames Mania Vol. 4 & Vol. 5 (Released Mid-to-Late 2005)
  • NetGames Mania Vol. 7 (Released Mid-2006)

I have found some infos about an Indonesian magazine too:

  • Omega Online Game Magazine Vol. 9 (September 2005)
  • Omega Vol. 17 (2006)
  • Omega Vol. 34 (2007)

Unfortunately I couldn’t find any online ISO of their related CDs…

Varthall

China:

  • 互动软件 (Interactive Software Magazine): October 2004 Issue
  • 大众软件 (Popular Computer Week / “PopSoft”): Early 2006 Issues
  • 电脑报 (Computer Game Companion / “Play”): Online Game Starter Pack discs

Taiwan: 魔法飛球 PangYa, published by Gamania (橘子支/遊戲橘子)

  • 軟體世界 (Software World Magazine): 2004–2005 Issues
  • 電腦玩家 (PC Gamer Taiwan): Early 2006 Issues
  • 電玩雙週刊 (Gaming Bi-Weekly / Gamania Corporate Mooks): Gamania Dedicated Starter Pack Discs

Varthall

I think we should set some ground rules here, especially in terms of finding AI-aided results based on “whatever estimation” for timeframes and the like.

Please include a link to a magazine scan or listing that makes it verifiable that

  1. the magazine and that issue do exist
  2. Pangya was mentioned in it

I know it becomes increasingly hard especially with magazines from Asia as archives on those are sparse, but we need to treat anything that isn’t link-verifiable as “doesn’t even exist” to us.

Indeed, AI can be helpful to find where to search, but you still have to verify each result. I agree that we only list verified results.
I cannot check this now, but it seems that the polish magazine CD-Action issues 131 and 132 have the installer inside the MMP or Sieciowe folders. Also the Click! magazine seems to have it, the 07/2006 and 08/2006 issues, in the Bonus or Freeware folders.

Issue 132 is available here: CD-Action Grudzień/2006 [132] : CD-Action : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
All the above issues are also available here: redump_pc_C directory listing

EDIT: The Czech magazine LEVEL DVD 148 (January 2007) also seems to have it, I have been unable to find it yet.

Varthall

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As a confirmation of the fact that Gemini can’t be always trusted, I have found no traces of any Pangya/Albatross18 client in any of those 4 DVDs. Maybe it was included in those two magazines, but not in those issues. The search continues.

Varthall